“. . .I’m always amazed when people say, “I’m a Christian.” I think, “Already?” It’s an ongoing process . . .” Maya Angelou (online source)
I read that quote some 12 years ago in the early morning light after a night of heartbroken not sleeping. That has stuck with me, giving me permission to have my own thoughts about God.
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I grew up in the Methodist church and was proud of myself early on for being able to say the Traditional Apostles Creed without needing to flip to the back of the hymnal to read it.
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Long ago, I was talking to my mom about paying attention in church – she said she tried to at least pay enough attention to read slightly ahead to make sure she actually believed the words she was reading out loud.
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Huh. Interesting, actually paying attention instead of just droning along. Okay, I’d work on that.
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I still work on that. Often I get into the creed as far as . . .
“‘I believe in God the . . . ‘ . . . yeah okay, I dunno.”
I’m okay with people who believe. I’m okay with people who do not believe. I’m okay with people who question. I believe we all have a path in this life and lessons to learn – and God plays out differently for each of us. Exactly as I think it should be.
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Leslie, Victoria, Loter and I spend time talking God and such – and if you lined us up from least churchy to most churchy – I would be your most churchy among the four.
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In November, Loter and Leslie and I were talking about Anissa – who was still in her coma at that point. I had told the Butterfly Lover’s Grandaughter (who is a nurse) about Anissa, and asked her to tell me straight up what to expect.
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She said, “I will say that the one thing I’ve realized in the past 11 years in the medical field – especially critical care areas – is that there is a much higher power at work than us. Sometimes miracles happen. They really do, Â with not much scientific explanation as to why. With that said, it sounds like that is pretty much what your friend is in need of at this time.”
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This led us into the topic of prayer and how Leslie had the #prayersforanissa hashtag up on her screen and watched it all the time of the people praying for Anissa.
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[ed: forgive the bit of choppiness here – I’m taking some of this straight from Skype so I quote the girls exactly.]
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Loter: “My faith has been uber weak for some time now, but I still pray. It’s weird.”
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Leslie: “I mean, even *I* pray . . . it’s comforting . . .plus? . . .I totally think it aligns your mind. I dunno. IT works . . . even if there’s a dial tone at the other end, I don’t care.”
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Dawn: “Yep … meditation … focus….”
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Leslie: “ezzactly! Taking your mind away from the things that are in it daily.”
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Dawn: i actually have issues with praying that i’m trying ot work out
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[Let’s note that of the 3 of us – the most churchy of  us has the issues with praying. Let’s all laugh together and then get back into it.]
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Dawn: “so I prayed desperately on the ride to the hospital that i would make it in time before dad died . . . didn’t happen . . . and that was the most desperate NEEDful prayer I have ever prayed.”
” people pray for jobs they dont get, for kids who die, and i dont see the point right now . . .like – if you are going to do what you want to do anyway, then why am i giving you my opinion on the matter?
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So we talked about this for a while – Thoughts were thunk and shared.
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Then Lotus said: Well, my old thought was that it was a way to build your relationship with Him, too. To stay connected. Prayer is an ongoing conversation. Â I know that Braden wants certain things, but I always want him to speak his desires to me, share them. Â Even if I can’t grant them. Â I want him to open his heart to me endlessly.
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Lotus had no idea that those words were going to help me so much. I’d forgotten about a RELATIONSHIP.
I know that Braden wants certain things, but I always want him to speak his desires to me, share them. Â Even if I can’t grant them. Â I want him to open his heart to me endlessly.
These words bring me peace.
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I talk to my friends all the time. Email, Skype, Twitter, blog comments, phones, occasionally even *gasp* IN PERSON! We talk about random shit all the live long day – we have incredibly strong relationships in spite of not being able to tangibly be together often. So why not talk to God the same way?
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I would be absolutely THRILLED to see in my Skype contacts:
Father who art in heaven hallowed be mah DAYUM name
But until that happens, I will be Franny Glass and work on praying without ceasing . . . opening my heart endlessly . . . With my community, I will keep working this out for myself.
10 Comments
TexasRed
This is my goal, too. The more that my prayer life can be like a constant conversation (like skype chat or twitter), the better for me right now. It makes me more mindful and adds something to the tone of my internal thoughts.
I’m working on more formalized prayer practices, too, but I think there is *great* value in trying to stay constantly connected. For one thing, it means there is no distance to bridge when I hear about someone like Anissa’s stroke or a friend’s dad’s health problems. My first thought is to pray for my friend and their family.
cindy w
I like Lotus’s version. My mom says, “When people pray for things, they get angry when God doesn’t give them what they asked for. They forget that the answer could be no, or just not right now.” I sort of love that too.
I’m working a lot on my spirituality right now, in the sense that I consider myself a Christian, and my husband… doesn’t. And now that we have a 3 year-old who asks a lot of questions, I’m trying to come up with answers for her that work for both my husband and I, and that won’t confuse the crap out of her. It’s pretty challenging.
Bridget
I cannot tell you how much I love this post. This is so where I am. For the past year, I’ve been working with the teenagers at church…and instead of strengthening my faith, it’s stomped it into a million little pieces. But in someways, I think that’s good. It forces me to take God out of the little box I’ve stored him/her/it in for so long and look at things in a whole new way.
I love how one sentence, one phrase, one word that someone says can touch you and Aha! You get it! That’s why it’s important to talk to others about your faith. But at the same time conversations about faith can go downhill quickly if you aren’t careful. I’m glad that you guys are able to talk candidly without worrying about that.
(Sorry for the longest comment evah!)
Clair
Such an awesome post, and it hits close to a lot of what I’ve been thinking about this past year too. I have a friend who often quotes an old friend of hers on the subject of having your prayers answered: “Sometimes, you don’t get what you want. You don’t get what you need. You just get what you get.” I have to figure getting what I get is what I’m supposed to have, even if I don’t like it. I’m still working on that. Thanks, and happy Easter!
Kyla
I really liked this post…a lot.
Lisa-Jo @thegypsymama
I have always thought that Jesus must have been familiar with language a lot saltier than one hears in church. I mean,his best friends were Fishermen for goodness sakes! I’ve seen “Deadliest Catch” – I know how it goes on the rough seas were men are men.
And I would always prefer that my kids rage at me, with me, into me than by themselves.
Relationship is definitely the key.
Angry, frustrated, overjoyed, desperate – I want them to share it with me. And I believe he wants me to share it with Him.
At the end of the day, I think it’s far too easy to consider God as one’s personal heavenly vending machine – put prayer in here and expect answer to pop out the bottom. I was crushed by that premise. Crushed when after two years of faithfully feeding prayers into the God machine, what I had ordered still hadn’t arrived. It was bleak and desperate to hear “no” at every turn.
I lost a country, a culture and a chance of reconnecting with family I’d been away from for a decade because of that consistent no.
So I swore and raged and followed Him anyways into the great unknown. And turns out He was there waiting for me. And I had been the toddler wanting to stuff pens into the light socket. No had been the right answer after all.
It wasn’t simple. It wasn’t what I wanted.
Ultimately He didn’t change His answer. He changed me.
Relationship.
Meg
I love this post (even though I’m damn near a month late in reading it). I grew up a preacher’s child and I have lots of issues when it comes to God and prayer. ButI like that relationship aspect that Loter mentioned. Definitely something to think about.
mel
I love this post because I’m struggling with spiritually a lot. I’m not sure what I believe, but I feel there must be some higher power out there.
I like what Lotus had to say and Cindy’s comment even though it’s hard to swallow.
“When people pray for things, they get angry when God doesn’t give them what they asked for. They forget that the answer could be no, or just not right now.â€
Gunfighter
I have always believed that the most empowering thing about prayer is what I get out of praying for the needs or well-being of others, not for myself.
Al_Pal
I think Jesus is totally a hip guy, and that sometimes, there are miracles and prayers answered.
I believe that my positive vibes can have a real impact on people.
& I think we get to reunite with our loved ones in the afterlife.
I call myself a buffet-table spiritualist–take what I like, and leave the rest. & as I learned in Anthropology of Religion, “People believe in something, because it works for them“. ;D